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For ERP LN feature pack upgrade, what method of install are you using?
Installation Wizard into existing VRC
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Manual into existing VRC
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Old 18th October 2005, 18:48
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You can use this site to analyise your site as well. It is quite useful. You can also analyise competitors and compare them to your site.

http://www.bruceclay.com/web_rank.htm
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The current opening page may not be the best way to promote the site I admit. It was setup to serve 2 purposes initially: a) to provide a gateway to either Forums or Wiki and b) to protest against software patents. Since b) is not really valid any longer (not for the immediate future) it is probably a good idea to revisit this. The most simple option is to set the root of the site the opening page of the forum, which is the most visited page of the whole site.
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a chinese guy love baanboard.com

i am so like www.baanboard.com and like Google's game .
so i designed one page for baan,named BaaN china fans(A website about BaaN ERP for Chinese BaaN Users and Fans). in this website,lot of links to baanboard.com!
here is the address,http://www.cuiwenyuan.com/baan/
logo as below,hope useful to Baanboard.com
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New opening page

Here is a first concept for a new opening page (and css) for BaanBoard.

Comments, criticism, advise and improvements...please.

New BaanBoard Opening Page
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Very nice job.

How about a disclaimer - that this is not related officially to SSA/Baan?

Is there an official word about spelling Baan. When I was at Baan, I remember seeing a memo about spelling it only Baan - BaaN was reserved as part of the logo and not to be reproduced as plain text. Not that Google is case sensitive.
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Old 20th October 2005, 23:57
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Oh, a few more "thoughts of the day"

When doing the following search in Google: 'Francesco site:www.baanboard.com', the result lists:

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,270 from www.baanboard.com for francesco

This proves beyond a doubt that our BFBBB (Big Fat Beloved Baan Board) is getting spidered with or without the archives in the path. The first URL's all refer to regular vbulletin pages.

This also strengthens my believe that the reason for our poor score is mainly due to penalization. The only reason for penalization that I can see is the mismatch between mega tag keywords and page content.

Don't forget to add Baanboard to your sigline!
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You convinced me Francesco. I am in.

Everyone noticing this thread - especially the ones who contribute a lot of articles try something similar to my sigline. Keep pointing everyone to this article - do your bit. That is the least we can do.
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Francesco, not bad, not bad at all It resembles much of a portal page which is commonly used in a lot of sites as a gateway to other parts of the site. Some comments:
  • Looks and feel should comply to the rest of the site. For that, the CSS classes that are being used in the forum/wiki are to be applied. If you have trouble with that, I can either help or do it. You can rip the classes out of most pages with any good Web tool (like some Firefox extensions)
  • Search button: can only apply to forums *or* wiki unless we implement a layer in between that serves a pass-through to both the forums and Wiki, collects all the results and displays them together on one page. Not an easy thing to do.
  • Baan/BaaN: I think the proper name is now just 'Baan'. The name 'BaaN' was reverted back to 'Baan' already a long time ago.
  • Disclaimer: good idea to include that as well.

Some other ideas could be:
  • Include last x forum posts
  • Include last x changed wiki pages
But again, this requires some programming.
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  • Looks and feel should comply to the rest of the site.
I used the existing css, but I had to tag on a few classes for specific divs and stuff like the redirect buttons.
Also, the h tags were not defined in the master css. Use of emphasis in keywords leads to a higher google score.

I tried to maintain the look of Baanboard (not sure about the feel. lol), but of course the primary purpose was to stash at least 40 occurences of the word Baan

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  • Search button: can only apply to forums *or* wiki unless we implement a layer in between that serves a pass-through to both the forums and Wiki, collects all the results and displays them together on one page. Not an easy thing to do.
Actually....I think I do see a simple solution for that. Let me try something. Other than that, I put the search box there mainly as a space filler.

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  • Include last x forum posts
  • Include last x changed wiki pages
Scope Creep! Scope Creep!
The goal for this project is to get us the Google #2 seat. Additional challenges are reserved for phase 2.
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Okay - is this sig better? I also put a baanboard link in my sig on another non-Baan related vbulletin site. Most of this is beyond my knowledge, but how long does it take to see improvement in BB ranking?
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Timeframe for improvements

In order for ranking improvements to occur, a few things need to happen.
  1. We need to be visited by a google bot.
  2. The bot needs to notice a change in the information
  3. The Googlebot needs to report back to its home datacenter
  4. The home datacenter needs to sync up with the thousands of other Google datacenters

Ad 1: I believe it takes about 1 week for Google to spider the www. Pat will be able to see when we were last visited.

Ad 2: It's always hard to predict what excites the googlebot the most. I strongly suspect that we will not see any change until a new HP is in place.

Ad 3: It's probably safe to say that one database will take 48 hrs to process all the data collected.

Ad 4: until the entire google network is synched, results may vary depending on what database you are querying. It used to take Google about 2 weeks to sync there entire network. I believe they made some improvements recently that speed this process up, but I'm not sure there.

So to answer your question, changes can occur anywhere between 2 - 23 days.
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Francesco, I copied your start page to the server and you can find it here:
http://www.baanboard.com/new1_index.html

I did some hacking on that file and this is the result:
http://www.baanboard.com/new2_index.html

FYR: i have copied the current start page to a static available page here:
http://www.baanboard.com/old_index.html

By the way: I am not entirely convinced we need to link to an infamous site as Baanfans. Does this fit in the ranking improvement scheme?
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FYI: Googlebot is on our site almost 24hrs a day, 7 days a week
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Mark,

I think your sigline is great I hope you don't mind that I am using it for my sigline as well?
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Beautiful Baby!

There's a man who knows his style sheets

Here is the code for a search box that distinguishes between forums, wiki or both if you still want it.
Personally I think it looks fine without it.

Code:
<form method="get" action="http://www.google.com/search">
			<div style="border:1px solid black;padding:4px;">
				<table border="0" cellpadding="0">
					<tr>
						<td>
							<input type="text"   name="q" size="25" maxlength="255" value="" />
							<input type="submit" value="Search" />
						</td>
					</tr>
					<tr>
						<td align="center" style="font-size:75%">
							Search
							<input type="radio"  name="sitesearch" value="www.baanboard.com/baanboard/" checked="checked" />Forums
							<input type="radio"  name="sitesearch" value="www.baanboard.com/twiki/" />Wiki
							<input type="radio"  name="sitesearch" value="www.baanboard.com" />All
						</td>
					</tr>
				</table>
			</div>
		</form>

As for the links to baanfans, yes it is part of the master plan. Because baanfans apparently has a high relevancy to Google, linking to it will increase our own relevancy.
Of course you could mask the link.
Google is on to most such tricks and penalizes for hidden text, but if you do the hiding in the css I am pretty sure the bot won't notice.

Finally, here is what I came up with for a disclaimer:

Baanboard is not in any way associated with SSA Global Inc or any of its
subsidiaries. With respect to documents available from this server, Baanboard
nor any of its members, makes any warranty, express or implied,
including the warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular
purpose, or assumes any legal liability or responsibility for the
accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information, apparatus,
product, or process disclosed, or represents that its use would not
infringe privately owned rights.
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